@thomyorke: Welcome to the site....I'm also new here and I'm also a "double agent" because of family...I've met some great folks here!
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Kool Jo
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Hi, everybody!
by thomyorke ini am from russia, and i've ben a jw for a 19 years of my life, since my early childhood.last 5-6 years that i spend my time in the organization, it was only because my family, close friends, and a girlfriend.i've been a pioneer for a 6 years, but my favorite kind of ministry was construction of kingdom halls!
(because there was a lot of humour, creative young people, young and pretty sisters, etc.
;)i still have very good memories about that period...nearly before i finally quit, i was disfellowshipped for a 1 year and 4 months.in that time i 've reed a "crisis of concience" and "in search for christian freedom", and give those book to my mom,she already was inactive, and having a serious doubts.but i was too naive!i decided to comeback into organization- cause of my girlfriend and friends.and remain there as a "double agent" or a spy))i had to pass through all the way to be reinstated...when i 'came back', i had a bad surprise: the elders decided that i need to study some publications again,for my "reabilitation".
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What should I do?
by Kool Jo init was announced a few days ago that a good friend of mine from another congregation was disfellowshiped...we knew each other for a few years, really appreciated her company, had a great sense of humor...someone you could talk to and confide in.. i'm still shocked to hear that she was df, she was a pioneer up to january...i'm very familiar with her congregation as i've visited there...we often text and exchange emails quite often.. .
she's not aware that i know of her being d/f...i don't know if she still goes to her to khall and feel really bad for her because after reading some of the stories online of what being d/f can do, i wouldn't want her to go thru that?.
i'd love to contact her and tell her not to worry and perhaps relate some of the experiences from this site along with some of the info i'm finding out...but i don't know if she's going to give in to the fear of being shunned and then tell the elders that i'm an apostate?.
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Thanks for the great ideas...I'm thinking I'm going to let a couple more days pass before emailing her, because her being DF was announced at the last meeting....and like what ya'll said...Im going to pretend I don't know she was.
I know it's going to be hard for her and thats why I want to be here as someone she can talk to...the cong was like her family, since her biological family lives outside the USA.
Will keep ya'll posted when I send her the email in a few days time...I sure hope she'll respond.
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Kool Jo
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Are You Ready for The Memorial?
by OnTheWayOut init's this week, folks.
i thought i might give you a new thread to vent on.
many on our forum still go to the memorial or have to answer to family about not going.
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Too bad I got to go...but I remember being younger (pre-teen) and eating the bread and drinking the wine after the memorial was over...all the kids at my hall use to look forward to that...
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by Kool Jo init was announced a few days ago that a good friend of mine from another congregation was disfellowshiped...we knew each other for a few years, really appreciated her company, had a great sense of humor...someone you could talk to and confide in.. i'm still shocked to hear that she was df, she was a pioneer up to january...i'm very familiar with her congregation as i've visited there...we often text and exchange emails quite often.. .
she's not aware that i know of her being d/f...i don't know if she still goes to her to khall and feel really bad for her because after reading some of the stories online of what being d/f can do, i wouldn't want her to go thru that?.
i'd love to contact her and tell her not to worry and perhaps relate some of the experiences from this site along with some of the info i'm finding out...but i don't know if she's going to give in to the fear of being shunned and then tell the elders that i'm an apostate?.
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Hello everyone
It was announced a few days ago that a good friend of mine from another congregation was disfellowshiped...we knew each other for a few years, really appreciated her company, had a great sense of humor...someone you could talk to and confide in.
I'm still shocked to hear that she was DF, she was a pioneer up to January...I'm very familiar with her congregation as I've visited there...we often text and exchange emails quite often.
She's not aware that I know of her being D/F...I don't know if she still goes to her to KHall and feel really bad for her because after reading some of the stories online of what being D/F can do, I wouldn't want her to go thru that?
I'd love to contact her and tell her not to worry and perhaps relate some of the experiences from this site along with some of the info I'm finding out...but I don't know if she's going to give in to the fear of being shunned and then tell the elders that I'm an apostate?
So how should I handle it?
Peace
Kool Jo
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Is The End of the "Preaching Work" Now In Sight?
by metatron inthere may not be any specific plan to end the "preaching work" but that doesn't mean that things can't evolve into such an outcome.
indeed, i now wonder if such a thing is probable!.
first, if (and it's a very big if) various nations develop case law that includes liability for volunteers, this will put the watchtower in a bind.
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It would be good...however, at an assembly I attended last year, we had a speaker from bethel who said they have a goal of wanting 10 million JW's before the end comes....my mouth opened up wide...now thinking of it...it seems they're just about numbers than really wanting to help people.
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by Kool Jo ini've been lurking here since late last year...was very hesitant to join the forum because of fear that satan would control my pc.... .
i'm born in, but always had my little doubts about "the truth" since i was young, but went ahead and got baptized ect.... .
i stumbled upon this site while looking for a km and initially thought it was a jw forum, but after seeing some of the titles of various threads, i thought to myself "i'm on an apostate website".
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@laverlite: Thanks for your comment...you're correct in saying that once you learn the facts about the WTBS...there is no going back...even if I wanted to stay in indefinately because of my family, I don't think I could live in such denial forever. When I first came on this site & subsequently became a "lurker" over the past couple of months...what I read just blew me away. Then i used the net to verify what I read on the forums and i'm convinced now that the WTBS has been hiding lots of stuff or have a way of denying what they've printed by saying it was a "misunderstanding/new light" ect...
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Kool Jo
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A BIG WELCOME panhandlegirl from a newbie also!
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Kool Jo
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And another one
by Inisc innewbie here, been reading jwn for a while now, and i'm so glad i found this forum.
so many thoughts i had about the org i thought it was just me!
so nice to find out there are others!
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Kool Jo
Welcome to JWN...I'm also new here & everyone has been helpful thus far!
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Kool Jo
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New member
by Kool Jo ini've been lurking here since late last year...was very hesitant to join the forum because of fear that satan would control my pc.... .
i'm born in, but always had my little doubts about "the truth" since i was young, but went ahead and got baptized ect.... .
i stumbled upon this site while looking for a km and initially thought it was a jw forum, but after seeing some of the titles of various threads, i thought to myself "i'm on an apostate website".
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@flipper: You're so right! I was uneasy with the fact that we encouraged people to be "opened minded, read our literature" ect...but we couldn't do the same for other denominations/religion. The illustration they gave was about if bank employees knowing counterfeit currency ect...that was the most ridiculous example I've ever read in my entire life...why? because I was a banker for a few years!!! I know I'm going to be in for a roller coaster ride esp with my extremist JW mum. In the mean time, I'll continue reading, researching and see what happens. Another member on here "Zid" provided me with some great links..but I'll have to find my own way of fading/dealing with family/ biting my tounge so as not to raise too much suspicion..I'd really love to give up being an MS, but I know my mum would take it very hard...and the questioning and the guitly feeling ect...Im grateful I stumbled upon this board at least I have someone to talk to. It's such a releif to know that I wasn't the only one who had doubts about the WTBS.
@mouthy: It's unbeleiveable what you mentioned. I'm so sorry that you're family is spilt apart because of your being considered an apostate...It always felt hard for me not to say a simple "hello" to persons whom are consisdered apostates when out & about doing shopping ect...
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Kool Jo
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by Kool Jo ini've been lurking here since late last year...was very hesitant to join the forum because of fear that satan would control my pc.... .
i'm born in, but always had my little doubts about "the truth" since i was young, but went ahead and got baptized ect.... .
i stumbled upon this site while looking for a km and initially thought it was a jw forum, but after seeing some of the titles of various threads, i thought to myself "i'm on an apostate website".
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@laverite: It must have been tough going to university with no form of support...thankfully my parents didn't object going to college and I'm so glad they respected my decision. No doubt you're happy for the members of your family that have realized what the WTBS is really about. I never really knew the extent to which "shunning" affects family until reading a couple of the threads on this forum. You're right about about the number of born-ins who have left esp if they're capable of taking care of themselves financially. In one of the congregations I'm familiar with, there were 12 teenagers, only 2 stayed in! It ought to be interesting what occurs in the future. Thx for the welcome!
@mouthy: Thanks for responding to my question. Now coming to think of it, the WTBS is more concerned with the religion that spirituality. How could some of your family members accept your financial assistance but don't talk?
@Sherilynn: Even I myself feel sadened to know that some of the speakers take pride in knowing that people will be die at Armageddon...almost like they're happy for it, wanting it to happen right now. This site along with JWFACTS have been a real eye opener and I did complete COC...now that left me speechless. Right now, I'm opened minded, doing more and more reading..just started going back to the history of Rutherford, Russell ect...some of the stuff I've read thus far has me shocked beyond comprehension. Well, I'll see what happens, going to take it one day at a time.
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Kool Jo